A recommended sci-fi flick

I watched a Sci-fi mini serie the ohter day, called "The lost room" and it took me by storm. I highly recommend it to those who haven’t seen it.

And for those who have seen it, are there other sci-fi or twisted series/movies that you could recommend?

Highly appreciated!

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The Day the Earth Stood Still
Forbidden Planet
The early Quatermass movies late 1950’s early 1960’s
"Things to come" from 1936


These and many more like them are the basis of all modern day Sci-Fi

This movie is insane! Certainly this is my favorite top scfi flick right now! A ship that is run by an artificial blackhole, that allows it to travel through other universes.

Then you should have said cube2 and cube zero. All are great movies IMO, but you have to watch them in order or it kills the whole trilogy
Cube is pretty awesome
Pitch Black is alright as well
What the hell, no mentions of Serenity? What’s up with that?

God that movie is such crap. There is nothing worth while in it.

I came here to post that.

Serenity = greatest sci-fi movie of the decade.
Babylon 5 the series was great…most of the boxset’s are fairly cheap now so could easily grab the entire series for cheap. There’s a new Babylon5: The Lost Tales movie coming out July 31st so i can’t wait for that. You can check out the trailer at babylon5.com, see if its anything you’re interested in, definitely worth checking out.
serenity
dark city (don’t really know if this is sci-fi)
event horizon
starwars

I didn’t like it that much, but that was mostly because of how much I liked Firefly. The characters in Serenity are changed too much, a bunch of them die, act weird, etc. I would much rather watch an old ep of Firefly.

One person dies and none of them act "weird".

The doctor and the captain are fighting and treating each other like shit, in the show the Captain spends the entire series defending the Doctor from everyone else. The reverend dies, the pilot dies, a few others die. Until the reverend dies you don’t even see him, only briefly, then he’s dead. May as well have not been in the movie.

It didn’t have the same tone as the series at all, and it didn’t really seem ‘right’ because of how much had to be changed to make a working movie for people who didn’t watch the series. It’s not uncommon for fans of firefly to not like serenity…

The companion was barely in it as well. Only half the ships cast had real roles in the movie. The entire reason the show was good was the chemistry between all of them and the world, it didn’t have the same feel. A great deal just doesn’t click. Here’s a review from IMDB that sums up a lot of it:

I’m a fan of the original Firefly series, and had high hopes for Serenity based on the reviews. Sadly, it was not nearly as good as I expected.

What rubbed me the wrong way? * Waaaaay too much emphasis on combat, starting with the opening scene. The fun of Firefly was always in the decisiveness and determination of Mal and crew in the face of a hostile universe. The movie reduced that spirit to a series of action movie clichés — the worst of which being the revelation that River is not just a troubled psychic, but is also Jr. Kickboxing Champion of the galaxy. By the time the "climactic" battles rolled around, I was thoroughly bored with the fighting. River single-handedly slaughtering a horde of Reavers was just silly. Mal against the assassin was marginally better, but still clichéd and unbelievable.

* Actions were too hyped-up and extreme. I understand that the characters have to be punched up a bit to make the leap from TV to a movie, but it was taken too far. Mal threatening to kill his crew if they don’t help him travel through Reaver territory? River kicking her brother in throat because she thought he might "deactivate" her? Please. And Wash’s death was just ridiculous (and unnecessary). Even the special effects were overdone — they would have been better off just burning half the FX budget for this film in a big bonfire.

* Plot holes galore. It’s easy to overlook plot holes if a movie is good enough, but in this case the holes threatened to unravel the whole ball of yarn. The Alliance knows that Mal will seek shelter with Book or at other safe-havens, so they wipe them all out… but they don’t stick around to greet Serenity when it arrives! How stupid is that? No, really. The Reavers all live in a small clump of ships in the middle of nowhere, but Mal can’t detour Serenity a few kilometers around them in order to get from A to B? Space is a big place, folks, but the makers of this movie don’t want you to think about that.

* Half the plot elements that weren’t full of holes were just incomprehensible. Can anyone tell me what exactly killed Wash? It seems to be the remains of a Reaver ship, but there’s no way to tell. Or is it an Alliance ship? I had trouble caring. When Mal brings the entire Reaver fleet to Mr. Universe’s planet, is he doing it on purpose? Did he expect to find the Alliance waiting for him? The answer to such key questions seems to both yes and no. Much of the movie was in such a frenetic hurry to move forward that it couldn’t be bothered to make sense.

* Simplistic. After the failure of Firefly, the movie was obviously dumbed-down for mass consumption. The revelations about River, the Reavers, Miranda, etc. were all disappointingly straightforward. The interesting relationship between Kaylee and the Doctor was reduced to a series of sex jokes. The only character who held up well through the entire movie was Jayne (since he still works well in a straightforward shoot-em-up like this). The build-up of the secret of "Miranda" was matched in lameness only by the too-easy revelation of the same secret about 15 minutes later.

I really wanted to like this movie, but I walked out feeling that I had watched something that was 1 part Firefly mixed with at least 2 parts conventional Hollywood movie.

The entire series? Really all 14 eps (11 aired) are all about Mal defending Simon? You should watch the show again, Ariel and Safe are the only 2 Simon/River centric EPs. Mal and Simon are often at odds about River.

You’re right Book dies, and it wasn’t unexpected if you followed the show. Everyone else that dies was not a part of the TV cast.

Book death is the whole reason that Mal has the will to do what he needs to do. It’s the event that gives him something to believe in other than just himself.

Books character is played along the exact same lines as it was in the TV show.

Yeah actually it is. A vast majority of people on browncoat and FFF think the movie is great.

For someone who says he liked the show so much more, you don’t even know their names.

Review blah blah

* Half the plot elements that weren’t full of holes were just incomprehensible. Can anyone tell me what exactly killed Wash? It seems to be the remains of a Reaver ship, but there’s no way to tell. Or is it an Alliance ship? I had trouble caring. When Mal brings the entire Reaver fleet to Mr. Universe’s planet, is he doing it on purpose? Did he expect to find the Alliance waiting for him? The answer to such key questions seems to both yes and no. Much of the movie was in such a frenetic hurry to move forward that it couldn’t be bothered to make sense.

what kind of moron wrote that? How stupid or little did he pay attention if he felt these were plot holes.

Yeah actually it is. A vast majority of people on browncoat and FFF think the movie is great.

For someone who says he liked the show so much more, you don’t even know their names.

I haven’t seen the show in a year or so but I seem to know the characters interactions better than you…

Mal defends River/Simon throughout the entire series. Jayne, Wash, Zoe all voice opinions that would have River/Simon off the ship, Mal is the reason they stay. This tension is a constant element in the TV show, and especially toward the end Mal is the one defending River/Simon. This should translate into Mal defending Simon in the movie right? Well, no, the first thing we see if them in a huge fight, for seemingly no reason, and then Simon and River are being kicked off.

Mal was never the catalyst for that.

Book- Barely in the movie at all, serves no real purpose comparable to his purpose in the TV show, he was the voice of reason and comedy relief, he completely abandons this role in the movie and is then killed.

So the alliance kills Book because Mal is coming, but they don’t stick around to kill Mal?

Wash/Zoe- Are fighting the entire movie. They almost never fought in the show, especially not in the way they do in the movie. This is for ‘conflict’, tension’ and ‘drama,’ but what it results in is a bad translation to cinema.

Mal threatens to kill the crew if they don’t go through the storm of reavers? Uhhh, yeah that’s definitly in-character.

Kylee/Simons chemistry was completely gone.

River is completely, 100% changed, and imo in a bad way. She’s now magically, for movies sake Neo from the fucking matrix?

The movie focuses entirely too much on inter-character conflict that did NOT exist in the show. The show was them as the underdogs against their world, trying to survive, keep River/Simon safe, get money, etc. This is completely changed.

If you think Serenity was the same thing as Firefly you never watched the fucking show.

You’re right Book dies, and it wasn’t unexpected if you followed the show. Everyone else that dies was not a part of the TV cast.

Hoban ‘Wash’ Washburne (14 episodes, 2002-2003)

what kind of moron wrote that? How stupid or little did he pay attention if he felt these were plot holes.

In the same breathe you make fun of me for ‘not knowing what I’m talking about’ and say Book is the only TV character that died.

I’m not gonna sit here and feed your bullshit by point-by-point arguing with you. A quick glance at the first page of IMDB reviews reveals 4 people who said they liked Firefly and didn’t like Serenity. Of 10 reviews. You are, in many cases, wrong, but you think you’re right so you’re gonna sit here and argue. I’m not going to waste my time. Have your opinion, but you don’t know what you’re talking about.

:rolf: oh yes, you’re self taught film man you must be right.

Mal defends River/Simon throughout the entire series. Jayne, Wash, Zoe all voice opinions that would have River/Simon off the ship, Mal is the reason they stay. This tension is a constant element in the TV show, and especially toward the end Mal is the one defending River/Simon. This should translate into Mal defending Simon in the movie right? Well, no, the first thing we see if them in a huge fight, for seemingly no reason, and then Simon and River are being kicked off.

Mal was never the catalyst for that.

First Simon and River are not kicked off, Simon tells Mal they are leaving so you have no point. Watch closer next time, because you’re fucking wrong about that.

Their fight originates from Mal using River for the operation. As they are part of his crew they need to work. Simon gets mad and leaves, that’s all there is to it.

In addition, in the EP where she reads everyones mind. Mal isn’t kind in his thoughts about river.

In the film he is remains the voice of reason. Telling Mal that he needs to believe in something and that running isn’t going to solve his problems. Dude that’s a giant purpose in the film, your down playing of it is making you look bad. AND they essentially reveal he was an Operative as his past profession, something eluded to the entire TV show.

Yes, with scouting parties. OMG they didn’t kill them off 45 minutes into the movie there for it sucks. Now you’re just sounding stupid.

The fuck are you talking about? Really? They don’t fight in the movie.

Uhh yeah that the point. It’s so fucking far out of character everyone is like “wtf”.

Not that fucking hard to understand.

That’s why she’s all sad when Simon leaves the ship, that’s why she bitches at Mal for it and comments about driving Inara off, that’s why she has a tears good by with him and tells him not to go on ships that have some crappy engine.

What movie are you watching?

Watch the TV show again. River both reads minds and displaces perfect marksmen skills. Sorry all here matrix powers are in the show too.

This is where you say you could have made it better. But you are wrong as plain as day all those things are in the film. Watch it again.

There you go being a wannabe movie director again. To bad I’ve already proved you wrong, and the majority consensus among firefly fans is that Serenity finished the story very well and kept the same feel.

Hoban ‘Wash’ Washburne (14 episodes, 2002-2003)

In the same breathe you make fun of me for ‘not knowing what I’m talking about’ and say Book is the only TV character that died.

Dude I don’t want to call you stupid, but you’re a fucking moron. Go back and read my posts. I said one person died (referring to Wash as it was the big shocking one at the end and Book wasn’t on the crew member of the ship). Then I comment that yes, Book dies too.

There is a big difference from that and your claim that “a few others die”. There are no others. Just those two.

I’m not gonna sit here and feed your bullshit by point-by-point arguing with you. A quick glance at the first page of IMDB reviews reveals 4 people who said they liked Firefly and didn’t like Serenity. Of 10 reviews. You are, in many cases, wrong, but you think you’re right so you’re gonna sit here and argue. I’m not going to waste my time. Have your opinion, but you don’t know what you’re talking about.

God you act like such a faggot, you get put in your place and you wont even attempt to argue back. Please go back and watch the movie and the show again and we can all talk about how many points you knew all fuck about about.

I hope you have a little more guts in LAOT.

God you act like such a faggot, you get put in your place and you wont even attempt to argue back. Please go back and watch the movie and the show again and we can all talk about how many points you knew all fuck about about.

I hope you have a little more guts in LAOT.

I’m the faggot?

For someone who says he liked the show so much more, you don’t even know their names.

:rolf: oh yes, you’re self taught film man you must be right.

There you go being a wannabe movie director again.

Dude I don’t want to call you stupid, but you’re a fucking moron.

God you act like such a faggot

And those are just the direct insults at my character, you imply I’m some sort of misinformed, ignorant jackass with every line you type.

Neither of us are ‘right’ or ‘wrong,’ you fucking dumb-shit. It’s a movie. You liked it, I didn’t, I gave perfectly reasonable examples of why I didn’t like it. I showed you that other people didn’t like it as well, for the same examples. You can’t just CONVINCE me that the fucking movie was good. It doesn’t work like that.

When I watched Serenity, it was a few minutes after I watched the last 4 episodes of the TV series. I had watched the entire series that week. Trust me, the contrast is vast between the environment the TV series set up and that of the movie. If you like it, fine, but I didn’t, a great deal of other people didn’t, and you’re being an immature little bitch for insulting and arguing instead of just accepting other peoples opinions. Grow. The. Fuck. Up.

Grouch was a much better nickname for you.

I’m the faggot?
And those are just the direct insults at my character, you imply I’m some sort of misinformed, ignorant jackass with every line you type.

First 1/2 those aren’t insults. Unless taking them from your profile is an insult.

"Occupation:
Aspiring Screenwriter/Director "

Yes you’re the faggot, welcome to OT. And yes, you are a misinformed, ignorant jackass..

Is this where the back tracking beings? First claims that you know the movie and show better than me and that your right and I’m wrong. Now neither of us are “right” or “wrong”.

Interesting change of heart.

And that’s not what I was attempting to do. You don’t have to like the movie but to make claims flat out untrue about what happens in it just because you can’t stand to be wrong needs to change.

Glad to see you can use those mean names too. Fucking hypocrite little cunt.

SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

Oh fucking zing!!!!

Oh but continue not to argue about the actual topic anymore. I know how little kids like you work.

You’ll keep posting too.

If you search my Vaginarium posts you can find that I’m 10-20 pounds overweight and single, make fun of me for that too.

Since you gave me permission I can’t be banned.

I can’t say I’ve ever met a wanna-be Screenwriter/Director who wasn’t though.

Nice spiteful word choice

When you’ve done something other than read books and post on web forums or youtube let me know and I’ll edit my post.

Dude I loved Firefly and I loved serenity, Everything that happened in the movie happened to move the universe of firefly/serenity forward, I was sad when wash died but it helped to move the story forward. and everything Jack Burton said is pretty much right on.

I came here to post that.

Serenity = greatest sci-fi movie of the decade.

Biggest ripoff of an anime story as well. Outlaw Star FTMFW!
Being John Malkovich
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

That movie is hilarious

Being John Malkovich
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Haven’t seen Malkovich.
Eternal Sunshine, although a great movie, barely even qualifies as sci-fi.

Haven’t seen Malkovich.
Eternal Sunshine, although a great movie, barely even qualifies as sci-fi.

it definitely qualifies. the best science fiction is down-to-earth and realistic imo. i also love Gattaca

I’d classify Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind in the same category with Fight Club, whatever that may be. I don’t really see it as sci-fi, because with sci-fi the fiction and imaginary world are very involved in the scenery and plot of the movie, in Sunshine the only sci-fi thing is the procedure which is nothing more than a plot device to tell the story. It’s not really a futuristic world, even though some stuff definitely doesn’t coincide with reality.

My 2 cents.

I’d classify Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind in the same category with Fight Club, whatever that may be. I don’t really see it as sci-fi, because with sci-fi the fiction and imaginary world are very involved in the scenery and plot of the movie, in Sunshine the only sci-fi thing is the procedure which is nothing more than a plot device to tell the story. It’s not really a futuristic world, even though some stuff definitely doesn’t coincide with reality.

My 2 cents.

Actually what I think you’re trying to describe is more along the lines of Fantasy if anything. And for future references Fight Club was in no way a science fiction movie.
I come close to walking out on serenity in the movie theater.

i like

event horizon
blade runner
2001: space oddddddysey
clockwork orange

That first vin deisel dark movie :momaru: .

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